Episode 105: How to explain “consubstantial” to the catechumens

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  • Nick and Diana continue their discussion of the Creed and what we mean by “consubstantial.”
  • Then they cover an option for celebrating the Presentation of the Creed in the “Did you know?” section.
  • And it all begins with a listener question about using PowerPoint in RCIA catechesis.
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  1. My question is, why does the Rite say that we are we just to hear the words of the Creed and the Lord’s Prayer instead of also looking at them? St. Paul says faith comes through listening, but is he not trying to refute the idea that faith comes through works of the law? Are we not to use all our senses to experience God? In the same way people are told not to read the Scriptures at Mass, but only to listen to them as they are proclaimed. Some of us are visual learners. We understand best as we look, not only listen.

  2. Hi Paula,

    You ask a good question. I think that when the elect are actually memorizing the Creed and the Lord’s Prayer, we would want to give them written texts to memorize from. The liturgy itself, however, is not the time for that. The liturgy is a celebration of faith. That celebration should come from our hearts. I agree that some of us are visual learners. I think that is even more reason to avoid relying on texts in the liturgy. The more our eyes are focused on a page, the less visual input we experience from the rich use of liturgical symbols and gestures. –Nick

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