Comments on: The trouble with Catholic Seder Meals http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/ FREE RCIA resources and support Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:06:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Nick http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/comment-page-1/#comment-6209 Nick Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:41:44 +0000 http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/#comment-6209 Hi Diane. The gospels differ on day on which the disciples gathered for the Last Supper. Matthew, Mark, and Luke indicate that the supper was a Passover meal. John, however, says the meal occurred before the Passover began. What is common in all the gospels, however, is that the last meal Jesus ate with his disciples was a fulfillment of the Passover. So the Last Supper may or may not have been a Passover meal, but it has Passover-symbolism in either case. For more on this, see <a href="http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/CU/ac0306.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">From Passover to Eucharist: God’s Liberating Love</a> by Lawrence Mick. Hi Diane. The gospels differ on day on which the disciples gathered for the Last Supper. Matthew, Mark, and Luke indicate that the supper was a Passover meal. John, however, says the meal occurred before the Passover began. What is common in all the gospels, however, is that the last meal Jesus ate with his disciples was a fulfillment of the Passover. So the Last Supper may or may not have been a Passover meal, but it has Passover-symbolism in either case. For more on this, see From Passover to Eucharist: God’s Liberating Love by Lawrence Mick.

]]> By: Diane Peterson http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/comment-page-1/#comment-6091 Diane Peterson Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:48:49 +0000 http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/#comment-6091 We talked about this in Bible Study this morning. Was the Last Supper really a Passover meal? We thought the lamb to be eaten at the Passover was to be slaughtered on Friday-thus the Passover would have been Friday night, not Thursday night. We talked about this in Bible Study this morning. Was the Last Supper really a Passover meal? We thought the lamb to be eaten at the Passover was to be slaughtered on Friday-thus the Passover would have been Friday night, not Thursday night.

]]> By: Nick http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/comment-page-1/#comment-5170 Nick Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:56:21 +0000 http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/#comment-5170 Thanks for sharing your thoughts Kae. Have a blessed Holy Week. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Kae. Have a blessed Holy Week.

]]> By: Kae http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/comment-page-1/#comment-5169 Kae Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:33:21 +0000 http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/#comment-5169 I agree with Jessica. Remember that Jesus's religion was Judaism; so by holding a Seder meal, we are honoring His traditions. It should be understood that children may giggle when nervous. Unless parents speak with their children and teach them the proper respect for the occasion and tradition, then no mockery should be assumed. I agree with Jessica. Remember that Jesus’s religion was Judaism; so by holding a Seder meal, we are honoring His traditions. It should be understood that children may giggle when nervous. Unless parents speak with their children and teach them the proper respect for the occasion and tradition, then no mockery should be assumed.

]]> By: Mel http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/comment-page-1/#comment-5152 Mel Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:56:23 +0000 http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/#comment-5152 Nick - thank you. It has been a very positive and enlightening journey. Thank you and god bless! Nick – thank you. It has been a very positive and enlightening journey. Thank you and god bless!

]]> By: Nick http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/comment-page-1/#comment-5150 Nick Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:35:23 +0000 http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/#comment-5150 Hi Mel. Yes, the statement is still valid. I hope you are having a fruitful journey this Lent. Hi Mel. Yes, the statement is still valid. I hope you are having a fruitful journey this Lent.

]]> By: Mel http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/comment-page-1/#comment-5148 Mel Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:59:33 +0000 http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/#comment-5148 Just wondered if the statement you refer to is still "valid" as it referred to a conference that was over 20 yrs ago? I am a candidate in an RCIA program currently - so I was just wondering? Just wondered if the statement you refer to is still “valid” as it referred to a conference that was over 20 yrs ago? I am a candidate in an RCIA program currently – so I was just wondering?

]]> By: Nick http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/comment-page-1/#comment-4850 Nick Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:54:59 +0000 http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/#comment-4850 Hi Jessica. Thanks for commenting. For anyone who wants to read a little more about Catholics celebrating a seder meal, check out the USCCB statement, <a href="http://www.nccbuscc.org/liturgy/godsmercy.shtml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">God's Mercy Endures Forever: Guidelines on the Presentation of Jews and Judaism in Catholic Preaching</a>. Scroll down to paragraph 28 for a direct comment on the practice. Hi Jessica. Thanks for commenting. For anyone who wants to read a little more about Catholics celebrating a seder meal, check out the USCCB statement, God’s Mercy Endures Forever: Guidelines on the Presentation of Jews and Judaism in Catholic Preaching. Scroll down to paragraph 28 for a direct comment on the practice.

]]> By: Jessica http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/comment-page-1/#comment-4814 Jessica Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:51:00 +0000 http://teamrcia.com/2008/03/15/the-trouble-with-catholic-seder-meals/#comment-4814 Christianity was never meant to be a separate belief system from Judaism, but a completion thereof. When we celebrate the Seder Meal, we don't laugh and giggle like children to mock the Jews. A Jewish friend, upon finding out that we Chrisitans celebrate the Seder, was so excited and felt flattered, hence, honoured. It is in this way that the people of Israel are glorified -- as prophesied in the Holy Bible. Imitation is the best form of flattery. Christianity was never meant to be a separate belief system from Judaism, but a completion thereof.

When we celebrate the Seder Meal, we don’t laugh and giggle like children to mock the Jews.

A Jewish friend, upon finding out that we Chrisitans celebrate the Seder, was so excited and felt flattered, hence, honoured. It is in this way that the people of Israel are glorified — as prophesied in the Holy Bible.

Imitation is the best form of flattery.

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